Cj transfer issue third round debate

[11/14, 12:46] Sekarreporter1: https://youtu.be/puei7mfovfQ
[11/14, 12:54] Sekarreporter1: [11/13, 22:19] Kasi Ramalingam: The so-called seniors who are signatories to the Supreme Court Collegium have absolutely no Locus standi in interefering in the Administrative Decisions of our Supreme Court, if they are well versed in law, such so called signatories could have exercised their scope under the Right to Information Act 😄 .There may be so many reasons, Advocates ,whether Senior or Junior can’t have any Statutory obligations ,as matters of rights, just out of over reactions,it happens 🤔
[11/13, 22:23] Kasi Ramalingam: Where they go when same transfer of Previous CJ happens in earlier occasions, needless to mention whom, we mean 🤔
[11/13, 22:30] Kasi Ramalingam: We must understand that Faith on our Judiciary is the Hallmark of our Constituionalism .
[11/14, 12:54] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 07:49] Mohamad Rafic Eb: This Transfer policy on Administrative reasons started way back in 1980s initially by heads, of political Govt Justice M M Ismail .. Later such practices followed by the Collegium on few more occasion like this inviting valid and serious objections from the Bar.

Justice K S, Bakthavatsalam transfer in Mid 1990s..

Justice T S Sivagnam recently.

It is not every decision of the Collegium on Transfer policies are subjected to Criticism.
In fact Bar was happy in few other earlier transfers effected by Collegium on the allegations of Corruption and other reasons.

Only certain deserving cases are dealt with request to reconsider the decision of the Collegium.

I am stopping with this as there is no point in attempting to make one who are capable of understanding but refuse to understand the reality of truth .
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[11/14, 12:54] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 10:04] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: Justice Krishna S Dixit observed,

“Advocacy is a distinguished profession affording full scope for the talents of the brightest intellect. A lawyer should be free to put forward creative & generic ideas concerning the case, unhindered & fearlessly, in the free trade of ideas, some “intellectual collisions” do unavoidably occur, they are like sparks of light and therefore are welcome, that facilitates the march of law whereby freedom of citizens broadens from ‘precedent to precedent'”.
[11/14, 10:35] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: Power To Transfer High Court Judges: Explained https://www.livelaw.in/know-the-law/power-to-transfer-high-court-judges-explained-185494#.YZCZCfOp3mQ.whatsapp
[11/14, 12:54] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 10:40] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 10:39] V subramani Advt: Answer to D1…when court delivers the judgement…though may be subjected to fair criticism..it should be accepted as it is mandate of article 141 of constitution ..Likewise once collegiam made decisions after having considered various materials..it should be respected and accepted…my friend pretends as if i diverted the issue without appreciating the context.. Answer to D 2……on many occasions..collegiam has to take into account aspects of national security at the time of selection and transfers…Recent example is JK where certain names were rejected on security consideration…i simply pointed out this in general terms when Raffic demands discloser of inputs in the name of transparency…..i never said security aspect involved in our cj transfer..It is total misleading on his part…It is regrettabe ..our cj is being dragged to this extent….sekar…where is failure of judicial accountability?? What is the administrative failure of collegium….in connection with transfer of our cj…It is mudslinging of collegiam with general allegations always without any specifics..it became style and fashion by some elements to always harp upon judicial accountability whenever they r not getting favourable verticts…it is very dangerous trend and totally adverse to sustaining judicial institutions on strong credible base .it is well settled even transfers on administrative grounds r not subject to judicial Review unless it is capricious .arbitrary… with respect my friend Raffic….let him point out what is arbitrary in the transfer of our cj by collegiam…..No doubt…bar and bench r placed on even plank..at same time ..certain responsible restraints and restrictions r attached to bar in maintaining judicial decipline…Thank u sekar….In the midst of adamant mindset…no use for any more msge in this regard…THANK U.
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[11/14, 10:40] V subramani Advt: Thanks sekar…gave detailed reply..🙏🏼
[11/14, 12:54] Sekarreporter1: Chief justice transfer debate third round https://sekarreporter.com/chief-justice-transfer-debate-third-round/
[11/14, 12:54] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 10:59] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: I also fully agree with my friend mr. Subramani. I also want that no harsh words should not be used against advocates for discharging their clients case of course as per law. Supreme Court should view the video recording of that this particular bench to prevent advocates being abused . No more posting on this subject.thx Sekar
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[11/14, 12:54] Sekarreporter1: https://youtu.be/puei7mfovfQ
[11/14, 13:24] Sekarreporter1: https://youtu.be/Ih-UW6_BOq8
[11/14, 15:00] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 14:32] V subramani Advt: The sum and substance and tenor of Raffic msges is that Bar should be satisfied or should be made satisfied for every decision of collegiam…under the cover of transparency…..sekar my msge is loud and clear..and direct…let him not repeat..or beat abt bush…..
[11/14, 14:35] V subramani Advt: Repeated beating bush would leave him injured…it is not Raffic alone….there r hidden hands behind his msges
[11/14, 14:42] V subramani Advt: Sekar…senior KM vijayan view is touching upon politics….Then …we can also infer from the these kind of protests..some politics or political parties r in involved….
[11/14, 14:45] V subramani Advt: Let us not spoil the credibility of public over judiciary….senior members should have some responsibility….The resolution of a Association may cause a reasonable man to think that something is amiss with senior judges of sc….
[11/14, 14:51] V subramani Advt: It is larger issue..it is not simply registering their resistance over transfer…but this wil cause damage to the very credibility of sc in particular and judiciary in general….
[11/14, 14:56] V subramani Advt: Iam not supporting or opposing ….once there is a system ..let it function….may be some lapses…in the eyes of some…but..if bar is allowed to register their resistance….then functioning of collegium should be tuned to whims and fancies of bar….
[11/14, 14:59] V subramani Advt: Even in bar..only a section of members r opposing….but majority don’t join their protest….few hundred signatures indicate ….the majority of bar is supporting them….soo..they can’t claim they r representing the bar…
[11/14, 15:03] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 14:30] Mohanakrishnan President Mhaa: MHAA is distressed to note that the present Chief Justice Mr. Sanjib Banerjee is recommended for transfer from Chennai to Meghalaya.
He had assumed office only in January 2021 and is a senior Judge. He has been effectively conducting the judicial administration in Tamil Nadu. He has co-ordinated with Bar Council in immunisation programs and other activities in support of the Bar.He is known for being forthright and open.
MHAA fervently requests the Hon’ble Chief Justice of India and the Supreme Court Collegium Judges to kindly consider the views of the Legal fraternity and take a good decision in the interest of all the stake holders.
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[11/14, 15:03] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 14:30] Mohanakrishnan President Mhaa: MHAA is distressed to note that the present Chief Justice Mr. Sanjib Banerjee is recommended for transfer from Chennai to Meghalaya.
He had assumed office only in January 2021 and is a senior Judge. He has been effectively conducting the judicial administration in Tamil Nadu. He has co-ordinated with Bar Council in immunisation programs and other activities in support of the Bar.He is known for being forthright and open.
MHAA fervently requests the Hon’ble Chief Justice of India and the Supreme Court Collegium Judges to kindly consider the views of the Legal fraternity and take a good decision in the interest of all the stake holders.
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[11/14, 15:03] Sekarreporter1: https://youtu.be/Ih-UW6_BOq8
[11/14, 16:28] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 15:48] Mohamad Rafic Eb: Readers will. Know who is beating around the bush.
He is not talking about injury to Rafi alone.

He is threatening the entire Senior members who are raising this issue in s most civilized manner…
His words are not in good taste.
It only shows how certain people are so emotionally disturbed in a public cause thereby getting identified with their intolerance towards the fair criticism…
It is very unfortunate he is continuing with his same replies with added words with sense of violence
[11/14, 15:50] Mohamad Rafic Eb: Thouu I made it clear to end up the debate on my part as is, where is .

Such threats , we the members of the Bar are seen so much in our 30 years experience at Bar
[11/14, 16:31] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 15:28] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: If my memory is correct the same mohanakrishnan was abused in open court and he was called a publicity monger and his petition was publicity interest petition.my friend should clarify whether he has filed the case in public interest or publicity interest. 2. Why mhaa has not raised its voice against the transfer of justice sivazanam. Why so many groups are working overtime to stall this move of the collegium. Why all of a sudden this hue and cry.
[11/14, 15:33] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: Suppose if the local bar gives good certificates for the respective subordinate judges will the high court accept it and retain the same judges and magistrates in the same place for years together
[11/14, 15:34] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: We are setting a very dangerous precedent
[11/14, 15:38] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: The Supreme Court should take note that some one is very badly trying to question the power of the collegium as if they are abusing their powers to penalize a person.
[11/14, 15:54] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: https://www.thenewsminute.com/article/cbi-probe-misconduct-allegations-against-justice-vk-tahilramani-109718
[11/14, 16:52] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 16:43] V subramani Advt: Empty vessels making noices..yesss…Threatening entire seniors….my words r in bad taste…continuing wt same …sekar…These kind of comments need not deserve any response…as everything cleared in my earlier msges…feel..my friend lost his mental balance……
[11/14, 16:46] V subramani Advt: S.prakam sir…who authorized Mr M.krishnan to issue statement on behalf of MHAA
[11/14, 16:48] V subramani Advt: He is lapsed president…Let him not claim….he is president of MHAA
[11/14, 17:02] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 16:57] V subramani Advt: Sekar….iam blamed for threatening seniors….fact remains iam also senior….Raffic should understand that you and seniors behind u r threatening senior judges of supreme court. ….Hope ..u people would understand consequences….Let me repeat….BETTER SENSE WOULD PREVAIL….🙏🏼
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[11/14, 17:21] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 17:11] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: I also felt very sad .
[11/14, 17:20] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: For the pat 2 years young lawyers undergone tremendous suffering. Even after tasmac bars are allowed to open the gates of high court was closed tightly. Our association was not allowed to open. Our livelihood was wantonly destroyed. Where these people gone. Why mba did not convene any meeting demanding normal function of High court. Why they insist a particular person to continue. So many questions among the members of the bar.
[11/14, 18:16] Sekarreporter1: https://youtu.be/clUpGcuhqR8
[11/14, 18:17] Sekarreporter1: https://youtu.be/clUpGcuhqR8
[11/14, 18:20] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 17:59] Sivaji: Regarding the recent transfer of our chief from madras HC to megalaya HC is decision of SC collegium. Members of bar has no role in this subject. Transparency will not be attained either in appointment or transfer in HC or SC unless judges are fair enough to come out with openness. Till such time the decision of SC collegium is binding on all including our present chief so our chief has to go with order of collegium and he has no other alternative. …as per our constitutional mandate
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[11/14, 19:01] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 18:52] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: Coteries in politics already ruined the political class in this country and made it impossible for honest people to survive in politics. Unfortunate now coterie is raising its ugly head in legal profession. Why we insist a particular judge to stay in our court. Does it mean that he alone is competent and no one is qualified to fill up that post
[11/14, 18:53] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: Collegium should take note of this dangerous trend.
[11/14, 18:57] Adv Suryaprakasam APS: My full support to mr. Menon who boldly brought the malpractice to collegium notice.
[11/14, 20:12] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 20:08] Mohamad Rafic Eb: Records of details of debate/ discussion/int this forum speaks better than the present VS response
[11/14, 20:10] Mohamad Rafic Eb: Because of prevailing sense of logics and rational thinking the Bar is requesting the Collegium to reconsider the decision.
[11/14, 20:19] Sekarreporter1: [11/14, 20:19] Ravi Advt Mhc: I sail with Suryaprakasam’s view on Collegium recomendation and transfer. As the Associations were sikent when T. S. Sivagnanam was transferred there is no bonafide to grumble now.
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[11/14, 20:22] Sekarreporter1: I sail with Suryaprakasam’s view on Collegium recomendation and transfer. As the Associations were sikent when T. S. Sivagnanam was transferred there is no bonafide to grumble now.
[11/14, 20:22] Sekarreporter1: M. L. Ravi